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    • #2937
      NoWorryLeaf
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      I never new this, but guess mostly for breeders probably something I should pay attention to when looking at buying seeds.

      F1 – Hybrid Cannabis seed will be first generation cross, closer to the parents

      F2 – When the F1 is grown and crossed

      Which is better – don’t know have you ever grown F1 and/or F2

      S1 – involves making a cutting/clone from the mother plant, and turning it into a a male, spraying Silver Thiosuphate will stress the lady and she will go to the other side. Then the pollen is collected to pollinate the mother plants they call it self-pollinated. Stability benefit of the same genetics

      I think S1 is actually then the best one to go for?

    • #3146
      Brad104
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      I would be interested in a few s1 seeds,is there a certain breeder you have to go through to get them, or certain website.? For this sounds interesting and I am interested in finding out more about it thanks in advance.

    • #3149
      NeuroticTurtle
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      lots of breeders and seed banks carry S1 beans, look for strains that are supposed to be clone only like GG#4, Bruce Banner #3, or that mention a lot of detailed back crossing in their description.   Whitewidow.rocks has some interesting reworks that should fit the bill like Gorilla Cookies XXL, or check out https://seedsherenow.com/?s=s1&post_type=product&dgwt_wcas=1 and go ham on some explicit S1 beans.

    • #3154
      Brad104
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      Thanks for the information @Neuroticturtle

    • #3364
      Nate
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      Do S1 plants express their genes the same as the original plant? Would you get new phenotypical expression as opposed to clones? I’ve never delved into it, but I’m definitely interested in learning more about breeding.

      • #3557
        NoWorryLeaf
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        Not sure, but I would guess S1 would be the closest to the parents.

    • #3591
      NeuroticTurtle
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      S1 is closer to the original clone, but typically not as vigorous or stable.  I’m personally gonna stick to f1/f2’s and do a sad little pheno hunt every time.  It’d take a pretty awesome cut turned S1 to make me run the risk of herms strictly on starstruck name power alone.

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